was down a couple of weekends ago, had a great weekend. As a rule, the cliff (especially the better travelled bits of black wall and southern ocean wall, plus vulture street area) is pretty solid compared to other seacliffs I have climbed (and compared to anything in the stirlings, where if you don’t like a handhold just yank it off and expose a new one). There is loads of loose tottering stuff above Pulsar area, some looking freshly fallen, and the descent to the raft is a bit dodge (but then I have a natural hatred of descents). 4WD wise, a proper 4WD is definitely necessary. Have been there in pajero, and thats fine…awesome cliff though. One of the best ANYWHERE as seacliffs go. spaces.msn.com/members/domhnall