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wow, as a climber who has spent a lot of time over east and os i cant believe that this discussion is actually still going on. lets add it to the day light saving argument and bring wa even further into the dark ages. quite amusing! get over it guys, its a quarry. have many of you even done the route? i have and its quite good. jeff, i will give you a catch on it, if you can find your boots under the egotistical mound of dust gathering on your old, unused but ethical gear…

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