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Hey guys,
I’ll be looking at getting a set of nuts soon and was wondering what brand and sizes people prefer to use? Are there more common sizes that I might require multiples of, etc, etc?
Thanx
Ben, I’ve got a set of Black Diamond anodised stoppers and I really like them. Having them different colours is really helpful. As far as what you’ll need more of- it all depends where you’re climbing really. Have fun!
Hi Ben,
Advice given to me when I was asking the same question was a full set of DMM Walnuts and a half set of Wild Country Super Rocks. Was good advice. The Walnuts go most of the time. The Super Rocks go in very strange places. Since then the asymmetrical HBs have come out and they are very useful. I also have a set of DMM Peenuts and even smaller HBs.
Me personally, if I was going to double up any, it would be the midrange Walnuts 3 and 4, but I’d rather have other brands around the same size, but different shapes. Now have more than 30 in a range of shapes and sizes. They don’t weigh much.
Important advice. Don’t be nice to your seconder. When you’re the leader it’s your neck. Give nuts a good tug to seat them and to stop them from wiggling out.
If your seconder has to use a nut key, so what. It’s far better than looking down when you’re about to fall, and seeing that your protection has wiggled out and is hanging on your rope in a nice row three placements down.
Unzipping, is when the rope tightens on your belayer and comes away from the rock pulling your nuts out from the bottom up. The reason being they were placed to stop a downwards force not an outwards. Be aware that your first few placements may need to handle forces from directions other than the obvious downwards fall. A cam in low down will usually stop this.
Safe climbing,
Toc.
Well by the looks of it they are all similar designs and they are mostly colour coordinated. It seems as if it comes down to personal opinion???
If you’ve got friends who have nuts, try theirs if you can (geez that sounds bad!), that’s what I did (sounds even worse).
After trying several types I couldn’t tell any difference so I bought the prettiest ones. 🙂 Some people disparage my nuts but I love ’em!
I don’t know anyone that climbs so I can’t play with someone’s nuts first. Maybe that’s a good thing…
And what’s wrong with your nuts Di? Black Diamond have curves in all the right places don’t they?
Di has big brassy ones tehehe 🙂
Geez guys keep it clean . . . .
I was trying to….sort of.
So, why would some people ‘disparage’ the use of Black Diamond Stoppers?
all nuts are not the same.
IMO wallnuts are the best by a long way.
black diamond are rather stubby compared to the more elongated wallnuts and WC rocks. As for anodizing… what a scam.
So apparently I prefer stubby multicoloured nuts. I also quite like hexes and am still using my ex-boyfriend’s cams.
But at least I can admit these things and use my real name unlike our stubby marsupial’s disparaging mate above . . . . :O
Well all the major gear manufacturers are anodising their nuts now so there must be some agreement that it is easier for the climber. Anyway, that is not the problem here.
Why is the elongation important? More surface area contact?
Hi Ben,
I like DMM Wallnuts because of the double taper – let me explain. When you place a Wallnut “normally” then the top of the nut is wider than the bottom right? HOWEVER, if you turn a Wallnut sideways then the top is still wider than the bottom!! Eureka!!! Both pairs of the opposing sides are slanted so the nut tapers either way. This has the major benefit that each nut can be put into 2 completely different sizes of cracks. Most other nuts don’t seem to have this feature, the old BD ones did not, don’t know about now as have not bought any nuts for years. I have both Wallnuts and BD Stoppers and find Wallnuts heaps better.
Warning – Metolius make really horrible and useless anodised nuts, stay clear of that and of anything European continental (e.g. Camp). They climb on bolts so have no idea how to make trad gear.
The No. 1 and 2 RPs are very useful also, for shallow cracks.
hexes are very good on Bluff Knoll. If you have just a few cams and a tight budget then you can supplement rack with them. But if money is no object and BK does not becon then I would steer clear.
Thanx Ross. That’s an answer I was looking for; nice and technical.
At the moment Bluff Knoll doesn’t call me. I will just be climbing around Churchman’s Brook via topropes for a while. The idea is whilst on the toprope I want to start learning to make good placements with passive pro initially, while I build up some more experience before doing a lead course and going on the pointy end. Baby steps!
i agree with the wombat’s friend. go for wallnuts. ross is right, ut most nuts have the double taper – it’s just more pronounced with the wallnuts.
i also recommend peanuts. RPs are not thta usefull for beginers as they are mostly needed on runout slightly dubious climbs that you will not be leading anyway…. as for hexes – if you have a beard they are mandatory. otherwise – for WA they are not worth the money as they don’t perform well in granite. however if you were climbing at araps on a budget then hexes would be the way to go.
Ben
I really like your approach to climbing and your thoughtful progression from top roper to lead climber. It is refreshing to see. With the attitude you have I believe you will make a good lead climber.
cheers
Dinah
Thanx Dinah. I try =)
But seriously, I’d rather spend 2 years slowly learning to climb and more importantly, stay alive, than try to be a hero only to make one bad placement and leave the crag in an ambulance….
Ben,
I have used DMM, HB and Wild Country. Could not find any difference in performance. They all work so just buy what you want. PS sometimes leaving the crag in an ambulance builds character and always gives you a cool story to tell in the future!!