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Jeff M
So saying access is granted to the quarry in the near future, who decides who gets to go in and bolt the lines? Many of us have been looking at lines in there for quite some time but how is it to be metered out? Do the CAWA favourite sons get first dibs? Is the quarry to be opened up on a certain day at a certain time and a mass start will decide who gets the line by who touches the base the quickest? Does anyone worried about being beaten to said line go in early and bolt it anyway?
Elliot
Couldn’t care less who gets the false “glory”. So long as the bolts are safe 😉
Ross
The issue involves negotiations with two government bodies, is not high on their agenda, and so will take a while. Whatever the access arrangement and development method is, it will likely be agreed in the same negotiations. Just to state the obvious, to go in and bolt unlawfully would probably jeopardise or terminate the whole access project.
In the meantime, I am sure Jeff M appreciates CAWA committee doing the work for free and in their spare time and openly informing everyone about it. If so, we thank you.
Numbat
If Jeff objects to things that CAWA does (or doesn’t) do, then why does he use the CAWA website? And why doesn’t he just approach DEC directly about Canning Dam if he wants to bolt it?
Jeff M
I use the CAWA website to keep informed and because it is the only west aus based site.
I have asked/talked to DEC and was given the brush off. I did this a while back after reading a document stating that the quarry was suitable as an outdoor recreation area including but not limited to rock climbing.
looks like CAWA will get further than I did, I am pretty sure Neil did the same.
I ask who gets to bolt as I do enjoy putting up routes and would like to have a go at one or two in there, elliot if you don’t want to put ’em up that is fine, I do, simple eh?
Logan
Just wandered onto the cawa sight to see what was happening back home and its great to see there might be a new quarry being developed. Just cause people want first ascents though please dont rush in, pick a bit of wall, drill holds in a fashion that suits you and your level (this has already been done too much in quarries in perth). Any climbers planning on sticking around for the long term will find that when they have had a few years improvement the climbs will not be challenging and there will be no potential for harder challenges and projects. Look at the natural features in the rock bolt a project and work it keeping an open mind with what might actually be possible. You certainly dont need to bolt and climb a route in a day in a race for new vertical real estate and for your name to appear as many times as possible in a guide book. If a bit of wall is too hard it is ok to leave it as a future project. Please dont ruin this opportunity by chipping the hell out of the place and grading everything 24 or 25. Please keep some sort of outdoor ethic and dont turn it into a gym where no one bothers to change the routes.
Happy projecting. Challenge yourselves.
Enjoy
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ed nepia
well said logan
Jeff M
I have never chipped a hold and never will, also would bolt it with glue in P’s. Some nice lines in there and would hate to see them brought down to a level rather than a climber pushing up to the grade.
Toc
Hi Jeff M,
We’re not sure how this is going to work when it gets off the ground partly because DEC have to be careful about being made liable for bolts that are nothing to do with them. There is historical precedent in the other quarries but here permission is being sought and will hopefully be granted. Unfortunately there are people in Australia who abuse situations like that. Hopefully this will not include climbers.
But I can assure you of one thing, being a member of CAWA has never, does not and will never get anyone preferred access to new climbs on public land. Being a member of CAWA never has before given anyone preferred access. Why would anybody assume this would change?
If and when the quarry becomes available, I would assume and argue for it being made open for everybody. I can’t see how it could be any other way.
Cheers,
Toc.
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