Well it sounds as as if “pissed off” is not very happy. I personally agree with him/her because it is the 2nd time that this has occured. Personally I would suggest to everyone that if you are going to Stathams or Mountain Quarry and the gate is open make sure the code you have works because if it does not then you may be locked in.

I actually found a rope that was left behind by a commercial company 3 months ago and I also acted honestly and handed the rope back. I also will now have 2nd thoughts after the last 2 episodes.

Why don’t DEC get their act together and just leave the gates open.

a message for “pissed off” 2 wrongs do make a right.

I thought the idea of staying safe was to “take cares” in there?

Meh. Look, there’s one easy solution to the problem.

If you DO NOT know the code to the gate (or if you don’t know anyone in the quarry that knows the code) then DO NOT drive your car into the quarry.

I mean really. People that do that are kind of asking to be locked in.

No point blaming the DEC. If you don’t have the code, don’t drive in.

Having said that, yes I would personally let someone else out.

There are three ways to address the lock issue (which is useful as it keeps out bogans):

1. As you drive into quarry check that your code works, always. Don’t just drive in through an open gate.

2. Buy a good steel hacksaw and keep it in the car. This is a small insurance policy and you will always get out (after 10min of hard work). You can also get a padlock to lock the hacksawed chain shut behind you if you are nice…….then you always have access via your private lock….This is obviously only for an emergency situation. Idiot abseiling instructors should realise that locking people inside quarries will make them liable to a law suit if someone gets hurt and cannot be moved to hospital because they cannot get out.

3. Bring a backpack – if you cannot be bothered ringing in first (Perth Hills NP Centre ph:92952244), then park car and walk in instead. The parking at the Statham’s gate never had any breakins as far as I know, at Mtn quarry park at the houses on other side of Coulston Rd, not at qate. In both cases it is a 10min walk. Never leave anything in car.

Eventually people will work around the problem and the dust will settle.

If you do want to strike back though (something to be said for that too), just superglue the lock in an open position, a few drops on the number wheels will do fine..

1) Commercial operator enters, leaves gate unlocked

2) Ratbag climbers replace padlock with a different one, lock gate, run away in fits of mirth

3) Commercial operator locked in!

Thanks Charlie, will have a better look next time, maybe a portable oxyacetylene set would do better……..tech point to Di, cannot remove or replace the lock, it is welded to chain…but you can change the combination if the thing is left unlocked, presumably just just press in the recessed button and dial in a new number? But we could get collateral damage that way among friendly abseilers, so I like the superglue better. It hurts no one and just renders a dumb system inoperable.

Di great idea, pick me and marry me. I haven’t seen Peter’s (rack) but mines bigger 🙂

Mate, Shane’s got so much gear that you would need to haul bags to move his passive pro up a wall alone.

…but my dick is bigger. 🙂

Boys it aint necessarily the size, it’s how well you use it. You know quality over quantity…

Though my rack is a pretty decent size 😉

CAWA has not rolled over on this.

It was brought up at our last meeting with DEC and we have been advised there is now an internal DEC discussion, the results of which will be presented at our next meeting.

By the way if you feel like doing something useful, CAWA needs a secretary and treasurer. The president is sick of filling in these roles and actually has other things to do, like follow up things with DEC. Getting involved, would mean you wouldn’t make such erroneous statements. Reading all of the posts on the site, not just this string would do the same thing. Asking if we were doing something about it, would get a answer as well, but just stating CAWA has rolled over gets up my nose.

If I could snap my fingers and solve all your problems, I would. I’d fix world poverty next and carry on from there, on the 7th day I’d rest. But I live in a world where powerful forces are difficult to deal with, and many people stand on the sidelines and swipe at those struggling with the problems that are there. Which world do you live in? The sidelines are comfortable, but some of us do, not just swipe.

Cheers,

Toc.

Quoting Charlie, 22 Jan 2008

” CAWA has rolled over on this, it’s time they put in a formal protest. “

Are you a member of CAWA Charlie? If not, why don’t you join and then do something about it? If you are a member, then why not join the committee and give up an evening and come along to a committee meeting, and also give up a day and come to a meeting at DEC? And give up a weekend and come along to a meeting at DSR?

It seems like a valid question, Toc. We havn’t had any stated position from CAWA. No feedback on any progress with CALM. If anything the website communication has been info on how to abide by the rules. I can see how this would look like a roll over. So how about a CAWA position and some indication of what we hope to achieve. This thing people keep repeating – I’m on the committee therefore I’m above criticism – doesn’t help.

And BTW, why are you doing all this stuff. I know I spat the dummy but there are heaps more people on the committee.