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- 22 March 2011 at 12:00 am #9697Mark.KGuest
Anyone recommend a physio in Perth area. Prefer someone who is experienced with treating climbers.
Ta.23 March 2011 at 12:00 am #9698RossKeymaster
Chris Perkin is pretty good, he is at Subi. See google. Not a climber but very switched on, fixed my back and shoulder 🙂24 March 2011 at 12:00 am #9699TomKeymaster
Yes, I agree with Ross, Chris is good. Other good guys at that practice (Body Logic) are Jeremy Ingram, Colin Strydom and Tim Mitchell.10 April 2012 at 6:32 pm #12541PeterGuest
Sorry I have to disagree, I have seen Jeremy Ingram and I was quite disappointed, I was pretty much dismissed about my lower back issue was given a few back exercises, I have since seen Northbeidge physio Linda, and I was very happy with her treatment. I hope this helps.28 April 2012 at 4:02 pm #12624DaveGuest
I’m been seeing Amber Davey at southcare (st john of god, murdoch) for a few weeks now and she has been awesome.
I’m progressing way faster than expected, was told at least 7 months to heal and it’s looking like i’ll be good to go in 3-4 months.
They also have a few Specialist MusculoSkleletal Physiotherapists, not really sure what it is but it sounds fancy.16 November 2012 at 12:25 pm #14596Kate SGuest
Physio’s can be good, as long and you know exactly what the problem is, and is has something to do with either your muscles, or your skeleton (hence the name musculoskeletal). Often that is the hardest part, knowing what is wrong. I have had a lot of problems with this, as I have had major injuries, once with a shoulder injury (tore my superspinatus tendon and resulted in an inflamed rotator cuff and bursitis) and also my back (spondilolisthesis). Both were mis-diagnosed as I went to a physio first.
As a good starting point, I highly recommend (depending on the injury) seeking a doc to give you a referal for an MRI, part of the cost of which (as long as it’s been referred) can be refunded (costs ~$500). Very good for shoulders. This gives a detailed look into your shoulder, so that it can be SEEN exactly what the problem is. A physio can only feel and guess, depending on your feedback.
Secondly, get a second opinion. For my back, I was told by my physio that I had pulled a muscle. I was given exercises and massages, and 6 months later when it became constantly sore for 2 weeks straight (despite the excercises and almost weekly massages), I sought a second opinion. I went to see an Osteopath, who has been excellent. He thought some of my symptoms were strange, and sent me for an x-ray. Again, a way to SEE exactly what the problem was. This resulted in my discovering I had a broken vertebra and a fused hip (since birth).
The Osteopath asked me to give him all the information I had, to determine if what I had is something he could fix, in 3-5 sessions! If not, he was going to recommend me to see someone else, and would tell me who that would likely be (doctor, surgeon etc).
Osteopath’s name is Roland Benjamin at Herbs for Health in Morley (don’t let the name put you off, he’s written 4 books and has been practising for 20 years). Unfortunately he only works Wed and Fri.
He has seen other friends with other climbing injuries, and he’s always been excellent.
Don’t climb if it hurts – find out what hurts and fix it, the sooner you do, the faster you’ll be back and climbing stronger than before.
Do antagonistic exercises – if you never get any injuries, then you’ll be climbing better and better, prevention is better than a cure!
If you do get injured, some simple tips – wait till it stops hurting (sounds simple, but is advice most people don’t tell you!). Ice (initially), compress (if swollen), then heat (to stimulate blood to area and increase healing) and rest (this can include active rest – e.g. riding, no need to go stir crazy!). This is usually from a few days to a week, and means that your injury has time to settle down, and often it will give it enough time to heal itself. If it still hurts go see someone to find out exactly what you did.
Once you know what it is, find out how to fix it and prevent it being reinjured. This means 1. stretching and 2. exercises. You must do them! No point in spending lots of $$ on going to physios and osteos and doctors, if you don’t do what they say! Otherwise you’re in a downward spiral. NOTE: find out what streches and exercises are right for you. There are lots of ways of doing the same thing, but not all exercises work for everyone. If it hurts or is uncomfortable, tell your specialist and get them to recommend some other exercises! You will know if what you are doing is working for you or not, so don’t ignore those gut feelings!
Keep in mind too, for bodily injuries (not finger ones) most specialists will make the pain stop for the activities you do most of the time: sitting and walking. If you want to get strong, full range of motion and get it back to climbing at all positions, talk to a sports trainer such as Andrew Ivey at EliteSportz in Osbourne Park.
Kate18 November 2012 at 11:52 pm #14662HynekGuest
Also JP at Body Logic. He’s helped with a few climbing injuries. I found him good at analysing how the injury happened and what is damaged.6 December 2012 at 6:57 pm #27570Tim MitchellGuest
Following lots of experience with both, I agree with seeing a physio not a osteopath. More highly trained and not alternative when it comes to treatment. As Hynek mentioned the JP guy at body logic is great and fixed my shoulder very quick, but recently I found a better physio Cameron Heise at iphysio in Leederville. Very knowledgable and detailed. The most precise medical professional I have see during my sporting career, with diagnostic tools on an ipad that came straight up on the tv. The results spoke for themselves. I will not be changing physio’s again. If you cant get in with Cam, go to JP, he was good too.10 January 2013 at 4:11 pm #43397LorinGuest
I can recommend Complete Wellness Physiotherapy in Kalamunda: http://completewellnessphysio.com.au/.
They’re all very good there, and seem to provide a wide range of hollistic treatments.
Specifically, I’d ask to see Kate (not to be confused with Kathryn). Kate’s a climber herself and has experience treating many climbing injuries, mine included.1 September 2015 at 5:34 pm #155192Kristine SandvikGuest
Curtin University has a clinic where postgraduates undertaking their Sports Major are available for assessment and treatment.8 November 2015 at 2:57 pm #155742DennisGuest
Not sure what you need treatment for but I had a pretty bad elbow for a while due to climbing too much and developing my lower arm muscles unevenly. I started training the neglected muscles to outbalance the difference in strength and within a week I was pain free.
Have a look at this website, they explain it much better: http://frogfingers.weebly.com/
Hope that helps.