You know what grinds my gears? Elitism! That’s what’s killing WA climbing! This climb’s about a 23…. I know, let’s make it a 17 (note, bit of exaggeration there)! Then newbies will feel daunted, and we can feel hardcore about being in our “we’ve been climbing for ten years, and no way you’re in our circle” club!

Let’s get a 24 and put 18 bolts on it, and get a 16 and put 2 on it. Becaase when you’re climbing on a 16, it’s just not as hard as a 24, so it doesn’t need as many bolts (forgot to think about people who climb at 16 level).

Bouldering isn’t a sport, it’s something kids do. All of the world climbs trad all of the time. WA is already the premier sport climbing area in the universe, so obviously it doesn’t need developing. Fixed hangers? Aren’t they in wardrobes or something?

still bored? my $0.02.

Name an overbolted 24 ?

I know some…. but i’d be surprised if you do.

I think that the number of overgraded 24’s outnumbers the number of overbolted ones…

You go girlfriend! Cheers to that. We should come up with an A-list of who can strut shirtless!

Oh poo Ben, so you go to the gym to crank hard and be safe and all that serious stuff? I go to climb, have fun and perv. Lighten up!

Firstly that safe stuff keeps me out of hospital so I will always take that seriosuly. But does that mean I can’t have fun? I climb in the gym to train so I can achieve more and be satisfied with myself when I climb outside. Truth be told I probably talk more at the gym than I climb! And climbing is always fun, even on bad nights where you get humbled by that 18 you do every other night, it’s always enjoyable, otherwise we wouldn’t do it!!

Anyway, I’m not one of these guys that try and do the hardest climbs with my t-shirt off so all the “girlies” will look at me. They piss me off the most! I climb because my very being tells me I have to and not because I can’t think of anywhere else to pick up women. I wear a singlet ’cause t-shirts make me hot and some ratty shorts. Whether I climb outside or in, I always wear what’s practical, not what I think will get women to perv at me.

I’m guessing you climb at the Rockface don’t you?

Oh, one last thing to the ‘bored climber’ at the top. This the kind of stuff you’re after?? 🙂

Aha the shirt on off discussion has started again. Its funny Rockface- shirt off hangout- shirt on hmmm the difference I wonder why. Will you get judged more at one? …. The procrastination continues. Also why is it only guy shirt off talk going here. What of those girls who chose to wear sports tops are they judged in the same way? I dont see guys complaining….

and to all those bored at work this is what we wanted……yes, yes it is

Good to see you can have fun too Ben! Having fun and being safe are not mutually exclusive you know! And are you the Ben with long dark hair at Rockface on Tuesday and Thursday nights or are you Ben of Hangout fame or some other Ben entirely . . .

Must run, I need time to coordinate my sports bras to my climbing shoes.

Hey Kris et.al.,

Not being able to find Wungong – am I right to assume this is the old (spiral bound) CAWA guide yer talking about? I agree, how could anyone tell people to get to the slab from the dam! (Heh – try to find the main climbing area in West Cape Howe using that sucker of a guide). This is fixed in 2002 guide. Still lost?

Underbolted easy grade climbs – agreed, bolt spacing should be same regardless of grade or deep pocket of FA.

Shirtless – when I take my shirt off, it is because I want some privacy, OK?! Anyway, rope burns and rock scratches are manly so there.

Pet hate – people who have almost no experience and gear skills and give out flame-grilled advice ‘cuz they can clip bolts on a 26.

What a load of wallaby scats, the best places in West Oz are far from the urban cesspit and other associated nonsense that has so far percolated through this post….

Sorry T-Rex but us gurrls dont want to see your peckers flapping about as you climb. Dries me up right quick that does.

Bouncing man boobs, what has this discussion degenerated to. who are you people and what are you on? Should this forum not be used to discuss matters of great imporatnce to the West Australian Climbing world, such as seeing what can be chipped and stiched up with badly placed carrots to make another weak climb? Should we not be conversing the finer art of stone dodging at chruchmans or critising damn sport climbers? I ask you, what is this State coming to when the most important things to talk about are male mammarys?