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    2 shame 2 say

      hi i have only been climbing 4 a little while and my friends are talking all about trad and its like another language to me. could u plz help me out with this definition, as well as multipitch. and some others but i cant think of them right now

      it would be great and i wouldnt sound so much like an inexperienced person which in turn would make me feel like a bit of a dickhead.

      thanks

      2s2s

      #1656 Reply
      Toc

        Hi 2s2s,

        Trad climbing for me means using natural features of the rock, ie cracks, pockets, knobs, whatever to put gear into, around, whatever, to clip my rope into, so that if I fall, I won’t fall very far. This gear is my wires, cams and hexes, (yes, I am so trad, I even have hexes). My seconder follows when I have set a belay, takes all the gear out and brings it to the belay. If the belay is not all the way to the top, then either the seconder or I will have to lead another pitch and that means we are doing a multipitch climb.

        Non-trad climbs I suppose are sports climbs and are bolted. A sports climb can have trad gear in it. Another word you can use is natural protection. So a wire jammed into a crack is natural protection, a bolt is not natural protection. It’s all lot’s of fun.

        Hope that helps,

        Toc.

        #1657 Reply
        Chris Dorrian

          Trad (Traditional) – A climb that relies on protection being placed (by the leader) in natural features such as cracks and knobs. The pro is not permanent.

          Sport (aka Bolted) – A climb that has had holes drilled into the rock and bolts glued or hammered in, permanently. As you lead the climb, you put a quickdraw carabiner onto the bolts. (No messing about trying to find the right size wire then getting it to sit properly in a crack.) (For some bolts you need to carry a hanger with you to fit on the bolt.)

          As Toc said, some climbs have a mixture of styles and both are fun.

          A single pitch climb is when you start at the bottom and finish at the top in ‘one go’. Obviously your rope has to be long enough so generally single pitch is less than 50m.

          For climbs longer than this, or if the climbers want to break up the climb you’ll do a multipitch climb, where half way up the leader stops and sets up an anchor. The seconder is brought up to the half way point, they swap gear and the leader starts the next pitch.

          I don’t know of any multi pitch climbs in Perth. There are plenty of multi pitch climbs down south, West Cape Howe, Mt Frankland, Bluff Knoll, Peak Charles. The last two have climbs seven pitches long. A certain amount of experience is required to climb multi pitch. It’s an awesome experience though!

          Some more:

          Free climbing is what most climbers in WA do – only using your hands and feet on rock to climb.

          Aid climbing is pulling on gear and hammering things into the rock as you go. It’s slow.

          Solo climbing is not using any protection, no rope. You fall, you die or hurt yourself.

          Bouldering is climbing on boulders or near the ground. No gear or protection is used except perhaps a crash mat and some buddies to catch you. No gear is used because you normally don’t go very high.

          Hope that helps.

          Chris

          #1658 Reply
          maria

            thanks 2s2s for the question. i had the same question.

            #1659 Reply
            IdratherbeclimbingM9

              Chris Dorrian wrote;

              >Aid climbing is pulling on gear and hammering things into the rock as you go. >It’s slow.

              It can be slow.

              … BUT, Aid Climbing these days is hammerless. The name of the game is CLEAN Aid!

              >Solo climbing is not using any protection, no rope. You fall, you die or hurt yourself.

              Hmm.

              Roped solo is often called backroped free.

              You use a rope and place protection as normal. If you fall you do not neccessarily die!

              By the time you top out, you have ascended the route twice and descended it once!

              #1660 Reply
              Richard

                What’s the difference between on-sight and flash.?

                #1661 Reply
                Numbat

                  IdratherbeclimbingM9 wrote:

                  >Roped solo is often called backroped free.

                  >You use a rope and place protection as normal. If you fall you do not neccessarily die!

                  I’d call that self-belay or I think I’ve heard it called Z-belay or something like that, not solo.

                  Q. What came first, ie which is more traditional – bolts or cams/nuts/hexes?

                  A. – Bolts! The first bolts were placed in… oh I think it was about 1780 or so, during an ascent of the Materhorn. Nuts weren’t used until about the 1950’s. Cams cam in the 1970’s.

                  #1662 Reply
                  Hynek

                    Bottom roping – belayer stands at the bottom of the cliff and rope is attached to an anchor at the top. This is the typical indoor gym setup.

                    Top roping – belayer sits at the top of the cliff attached to an anchor and climber climbs up to him.

                    Everyone calls both of these ‘top roping’.

                    If you fall – you fall about 40cm 🙂

                    #1663 Reply
                    Dinah Margaret Pantic

                      Just a suggestion; perhaps CAWA could put a glossary on it’s web site.

                      #1664 Reply
                      James

                        Chockstone do a dictionary that might be helpful 2S2S

                        http://www.chockstone.org/dictionary.htm

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