To get out stuck camminf devices, you need to close the cam lobes beyond the range that can be accomplished by pulling on the cam trigger. This is done using a nut tool: (1)put the pointy bit of the nut tool directly onto one of the cams, slide it shut, then pivot the cam out a bit (2) then do it with the other cams (3) repeat until out. It is extremely rare that a stuck cam truly cannot be removed, it never happended in churchams in 30 years people have been climbing there. I have removed mabe 30 “permanently stuck” cams in my life, most of them in under 5 minutes; so don’t give up.

Thanks Deadbolt for the hints, I suppose with a long thin screwdriver I could have done as you suggested, It is such a thin crack and now the cam is right in up to the webbing,

Shannon, I think using the technique Deadbolt describes you could get your cam out, Another way I heard of was to wrap a sling around the triggers, make a loop and try using your feet/legs to pull it out, If its still there when I go back I’ll have a go at it, If I get it out I’ll give it back to you, I know what its like to lose gear and lets face it none of it is cheap..

Cheers