I reckon its Matt and Jim seeing the errors of their ways and pulling their own bolts out…

he? or she?

i think it’s ed nepia

Rabbit = Jeff M

The real question is: Who really gives a shit? 😉

P.S I’m hurt Elliot – hope you don’t fall victim to one of the Boya Boys dodgy carrots!

Now hang on rabbit. Maybe y had a point with Carroterrism. There’s a chippin issue. And maybe times’re changing , it being a new route. But wrecking established routes. We’re not happy about that. We would discourage it . You don’t like em, go put up a danger sign or something. If it’s gonna be that anybody can chop anything some of us are thinking of stripping everything over grade 24. Maybe not Star Wars . We’re not hasty, We’ll hold back a bit. But hey. You n yer cheer squad destroy the climbs we like, why should we care bout anything you want. Or is it time the quarries were cleaned out. Start again. Least DEC be happy.

on ya rabbit, so long as it is current, newly established routes that should have been bolted properly(and not previous era classics) you have my support.

There is really no place for carrots, except perhaps in a museum (“look son, that is what people used for protection of bolted climbs in the early days of climbing, when it was new and there were no alternatives” “Oh no Dad, I heard people in Perth used them until recently” ” carrots were eventually banned because they were unsafe, but until then a few people still did use them because they thought that they were expressing their individuality but really most people thought they were self indulgent wankers who did not care about the rest of the community”)

oh now thats a good idea… replace shitty carrots with …. shitty carrots… brilliant!

this really shows just how weird the perth scene is, i know this is the worlds most isolated city but its hard to escape the creepy feeling that some of you guys never grew up and left the seventies behind.. times have changed everywhere else

wooooohooooo

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myxomatosis you are wrong on a couple of points

– a chance of rebuttle

“visiting climbers dont get a choice when they set off on a bolted climb, they will assume that bolts are as good as possible, not knowing until they get to the bolts… the bolter sets the safety limit for the route, and as such should assume responsibility for those that follow by placing best possible equipment, simple equation eh..”

– i agree (maybe a good caveat in the next guide and online guides..) however its a moot argument. For example, do we all assume that glue in P-bolts in limestone are safe (probably safer than carrots yeah) but limestone is a thin veneer of solid rock on a sandy soft back. We can all remember the spiining P on Toy shopping at bobs. THerefore, despite a solid appearing glue in P we still face the danger of it being not-safe. Therefore, any argumet regarding bolt safety is quite irrelevant with respect to what a climber should expect. How about those great bolts in thailand. We all should expect the worst!!!

“and wht bother asking anyone to replace carrots with better gear when you wont do the same?”

I dont care about that route, i dont want to climb it cos its on carrots, and its not a very nice line. so why would i invest in it. Beyond a few bob for some carrots. I have never complained about the climb. But those who do should just take a more appropriate line of action. If they care so much.

or are you only good for romantic gestures?

Most likley!!!

Again good work to everyone who has put up routes in the quarry, your efforts are always appreciated.

jesus with logic like that you should be in politics… care to put a name to your actions?